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    Post by Lavaros Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:07 am

    I thought a thread like this might be good, this will just be a general thread for this kind of thing- also to explain why you find said program so useful and why you'd endorse it.

    Keep in mind, I am recommending things from a Mac Users perspective.

    For script writing, really- ANY program that can do Word Processing will do you, but if you want advanced settings. Look to Pages for a Mac (I like to write out my scripts for anything in a basic word document, and then copy paste from there into Pages.)

    For recording: Garage Band is pretty useful, it has some decent filters, the only real problem is that it kinda tricks you with its settings initially. Always make sure you set your recording to No Effects, the Male and Female basics always provide an echo. More importantly you can transfer files in high quality, and the program will read just about any microphone.

    For video editing: As an initial teaching tool to ease into video making, I used iMovie. Now, it is crap for fandubs or abridging or just about anything you want with accuracy, but if you want to test your skills before you use something more complicated, iMovie is a good starting point. If you want something good... Well, I've mentioned this in another thread. But Final Cut can do wonders if you know how to use it properly.

    Image Editing: Photoshop. Always Photoshop. If you're feeling desperate, you can use Gimp, but it's just not as good and in my experience just a tad more frustrating to use.

    I also apologize if this is in the wrong section, but I thought this thread might be nice to set up.
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    Post by John.38. Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:06 am

    Oh boy here we go.

    Whenever I'm asked what software I would recommend to anyone I first ask them if they are looking for Free Software. They often nod their head or reject my offer because they think I'm referring to Software that is free as in beer. When I speak of free software I don't refer to software that is of no charge to the user, but software the respects the users freedom as defined by the FSF and GNU project. Audacity, Open-Office, Libre-Office, The GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP), GNU Emacs, Notepad++, and countless other programs are vital when it comes to abridging and computing in general. I would make a full list, but I'm lazy. Instead we can listen to Richard Stallman.



    Lavaros wrote:Image Editing: Photoshop. Always Photoshop. If you're
    feeling desperate, you can use Gimp, but it's just not as good and in my
    experience just a tad more frustrating to use.

    Freedom hater detected.
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    Post by Admin-sensei Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:09 am

    John.38. wrote:Oh boy here we go.

    Whenever I'm asked what software I would recommend to anyone I first ask them if they are looking for Free Software. They often nod their head or reject my offer because they think I'm referring to Software that is free as in beer. When I speak of free software I don't refer to software that is of no charge to the user, but software the respects the users freedom as defined by the FSF and GNU project. Audacity, Open-Office, Libre-Office, GNU Emacs, Notepad++, and countless other programs are vital when it comes to abridging and computing in general. I would make a full list, but I'm lazy. Instead we can listen to Richard Stallman.

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    I think it would be easier if you just referred to it as open-source software... no?
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    Post by John.38. Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:11 am

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    Admin-sensei wrote:I think it would be easier if you just referred to it as open-source software... no?

    Ctrl+F "Open Source" Here: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

    Also see: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html
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    Post by Lavaros Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:22 am

    To clarify: John reeeeally likes Freedom.
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    Post by ZeroSigner Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:24 am

    theres also a few programs like lateist program Sony vegas or FinalCutPro and some like TrackxPC
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    Post by Piclone Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:02 am

    Personally I like using Premier Pro, Photoshop, After Effects and Audacity to edit my videos. They are pretty easy to use when you know what you're doing although it's still pretty hard to master them.
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    Post by NipponIchiHero Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:48 pm

    Currently, I'm using Sony Vegas Pro 11 for editing and Audacity for audio adjustments. If I need to convert a .mkv file to a .wmv file, I use FormatFactory.
    I'm still trying to get the hang of Sony Vegas, but video keeps lagging with the audio.
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    Post by Admin-sensei Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:31 pm

    You might want to try to turn down the preview window quality in Vegas, or it could be that you are using HD footage and your computer is not able to keep up with the video footage while watching it in the timeline. If you are still having problems after changing your preview window quality settings, then you may need to get more powerful parts for your computer (assuming that you don't have a very powerful computer already).
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    Post by NipponIchiHero Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:58 pm

    Admin-sensei wrote:You might want to try to turn down the preview window quality in Vegas, or it could be that you are using HD footage and your computer is not able to keep up with the video footage while watching it in the timeline. If you are still having problems after changing your preview window quality settings, then you may need to get more powerful parts for your computer (assuming that you don't have a very powerful computer already).
    It looks like I'll need to get that new computer. I messed with the preview quality settings, changing it to preview and draft with half and quarter. In the end, it still lagged. Thanks for telling me this though, Admin-sensei.
    I'll just get that new computer and I can get back to the projects I'm working with my group. ^^
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    Post by Admin-sensei Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:02 pm

    NipponIchiHero wrote:
    Admin-sensei wrote:You might want to try to turn down the preview window quality in Vegas, or it could be that you are using HD footage and your computer is not able to keep up with the video footage while watching it in the timeline. If you are still having problems after changing your preview window quality settings, then you may need to get more powerful parts for your computer (assuming that you don't have a very powerful computer already).
    It looks like I'll need to get that new computer. I messed with the preview quality settings, changing it to preview and draft with half and quarter. In the end, it still lagged. Thanks for telling me this though, Admin-sensei.
    I'll just get that new computer and I can get back to the projects I'm working with my group. ^^

    It may even come down to just getting a new Video/Graphics card. I used to be unable to do anything in Vegas, but I got one as a gift last year and edit using 720p (sometimes 1080p) videos with almost no lag on Preview(Auto)
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    Post by NipponIchiHero Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:40 pm

    Admin-sensei wrote:
    NipponIchiHero wrote:
    Admin-sensei wrote:You might want to try to turn down the preview window quality in Vegas, or it could be that you are using HD footage and your computer is not able to keep up with the video footage while watching it in the timeline. If you are still having problems after changing your preview window quality settings, then you may need to get more powerful parts for your computer (assuming that you don't have a very powerful computer already).
    It looks like I'll need to get that new computer. I messed with the preview quality settings, changing it to preview and draft with half and quarter. In the end, it still lagged. Thanks for telling me this though, Admin-sensei.
    I'll just get that new computer and I can get back to the projects I'm working with my group. ^^

    It may even come down to just getting a new Video/Graphics card. I used to be unable to do anything in Vegas, but I got one as a gift last year and edit using 720p (sometimes 1080p) videos with almost no lag on Preview(Auto)
    I would just get a new video card, if I had already pretty decent set up. But at the moment, the computer I have is isn't the best. I think it'd be better if I just got a new computer.
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    Post by concrete Building Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:15 am

    Alright, I'm gonna say here and now that GIMP *is* the better program.

    CB, you're nuts! Why would you think that?

    Well.. I've used both PS and GIMP. Gimp has alot more tools and features that the guys at Adobe are probably thinking just now, "Hey, what if we had this?" It also seems to run better on a lower quality computer (don't ask me why, I have no clue), and not everyone has a super high-quality editing machine.

    That being said, I do use Photoshop for a couple reasons.

    1. The colors after exporting in GIMP are a bit off, like they seem a bit washed out. PS doesn't do that.
    2. The Creative Suite allows me to use PS directly from Premiere and import the PS files (although I don't do that that much)
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    Post by Neonie Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:25 am

    For artists I'd say Photo Tool SAI.
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    Post by Admin-sensei Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:11 am

    concrete Building wrote:Alright, I'm gonna say here and now that GIMP *is* the better program.

    CB, you're nuts! Why would you think that?

    Well.. I've used both PS and GIMP. Gimp has alot more tools and features that the guys at Adobe are probably thinking just now, "Hey, what if we had this?" It also seems to run better on a lower quality computer (don't ask me why, I have no clue), and not everyone has a super high-quality editing machine.

    That being said, I do use Photoshop for a couple reasons.

    1. The colors after exporting in GIMP are a bit off, like they seem a bit washed out. PS doesn't do that.
    2. The Creative Suite allows me to use PS directly from Premiere and import the PS files (although I don't do that that much)

    Sony Vegas also lets you use .PSD files.

    Neonie wrote:For artists I'd say Photo Tool SAI.

    *Paint Tool SAI

    and I'd say to use SAI only when you are trying to draw things to add in to the video, Photoshop let's you do a bit more in terms of editing... But SAI is better for drawing and Painting.
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    Post by concrete Building Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:18 am

    Admin-sensei wrote:
    Sony Vegas also lets you use .PSD files.

    You can save .psd in Gimp.
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    Post by Admin-sensei Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:30 am

    concrete Building wrote:
    Admin-sensei wrote:
    Sony Vegas also lets you use .PSD files.

    You can save .psd in Gimp.

    Yes, I know that. It's because Gimp is designed to be an open-source alternative for Photoshop. I was referring to where you said,
    2. The Creative Suite allows me to use PS directly from Premiere and import the PS files (although I don't do that that much)
    and I was saying that Sony Vegas can import files from Photoshop too. (Notice that I never said anything about Gimp in my post.)
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    Post by Lavaros Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:04 pm

    So can Final Cut. I think most good editing programs can use photoshop files. Heck, Final Cut even tells you to work with Photoshop in it's help guides.
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    Post by John.38. Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:00 am

    Admin-sensei wrote:It's because Gimp is designed to be an open-source alternative for Photoshop.

    RMS wrote:When we call software “free,” we mean that it respects
    the users' essential freedoms:
    the freedom to run it, to study and change it, and to redistribute
    copies with or without changes. This is a matter of freedom, not
    price, so think of “free speech,” not “free
    beer.”

    These freedoms are vitally important. They are essential, not just
    for the individual users' sake, but for society as a whole because they promote social
    solidarity—that is, sharing and cooperation. They become even
    more important as our culture and life activities are increasingly digitized.
    In a world of digital sounds, images, and words, free
    software becomes increasingly essential for freedom in general.


    Tens of millions of people around the world now use free software;
    the public schools of some regions of India and Spain now teach all students to
    use the free GNU/Linux operating
    system
    . Most of these users, however, have never heard of the ethical
    reasons for which we developed this system and built the free software
    community, because nowadays this system and community are more often
    spoken of as “open source”, attributing them to a different
    philosophy in which these freedoms are hardly mentioned.


    The free software movement has campaigned for computer users'
    freedom since 1983. In 1984 we launched the development of the free
    operating system GNU, so that we could avoid the nonfree operating
    systems that deny freedom to their users. During the 1980s, we
    developed most
    of the essential components of the system and designed
    the GNU General Public License (GNU GPL) to release them under—a
    license designed specifically to protect freedom for all users of a
    program.


    Not all of the users and developers of free software
    agreed with the goals of the free software movement. In 1998, a part
    of the free software community splintered off and began campaigning in
    the name of “open source.” The term was originally
    proposed to avoid a possible misunderstanding of the term “free
    software,” but it soon became associated with philosophical
    views quite different from those of the free software movement.


    Some of the supporters of open source considered the term a
    “marketing campaign for free software,” which would appeal
    to business executives by highlighting the software's practical
    benefits, while not raising issues of right and wrong that they might
    not like to hear. Other
    supporters flatly rejected the free software movement's ethical and
    social values. Whichever their views, when campaigning for
    open source, they neither cited nor advocated those values.
    The term “open source” quickly became associated with
    ideas and arguments based only on practical values, such as making or
    having powerful,
    reliable software. Most of the supporters of open
    source have come to it since then, and they make the same association.


    Nearly all open source software is free software. The two terms
    describe almost the same category of software, but they stand for
    views based on fundamentally different values. Open source is a
    development methodology; free software is a social movement. For the
    free software movement, free software is an ethical imperative,
    because only free software respects the users' freedom. By contrast,
    the philosophy of open source considers issues in terms of how to make
    software “better”—in a practical sense only. It
    says that nonfree software is an inferior solution to the practical
    problem at hand. For the free software movement, however, nonfree
    software is a social problem, and the solution is to stop using it and
    move to free software.


    “Free software.” “Open source.” If it's the same software, does it
    matter which name you use? Yes, because different words convey
    different ideas. While a free program by any other name would give
    you the same freedom today, establishing freedom in a lasting way
    depends above all on teaching people to value freedom. If you want to
    help do this, it is essential to speak of “free
    software.”


    We in the free software movement don't think of the open source
    camp as an enemy; the enemy is proprietary (nonfree) software. But
    we want people to know we stand for freedom, so we do not accept being
    mislabeled as open source supporters.
    http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html
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    Post by Killer Se7en Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:09 am

    Started out using WMM which was a pure pain to edit videos with. I mostly just use Vegas Pro 8 or 11(just in case i have to edit mp4 format) but other than that Adobe has some neat stuff I haven't touched yet.
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    Post by concrete Building Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:54 pm

    John, I think we'd best not argue with the mods, here. I personally don't want any internet drama.

    Aaand back onto the topic, I use CS5.5 for pretty much everything. Illustrator, PS, premiere, AE (on occasion).

    Audacity's a good alternative to SB and Audition, although I know I might get Pro Tools in the futaaaahh, and I've already talked about Gimp and PS.

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